Note To The Left: Diversity In Israel
A kindergarten worker taking care of Sudanese refugee children on Thursday in the southern town of Arad. (Israel)
The Left believes in the destructive fantasy that Israel is a racist, colonialist, white power. This is a lie. Not really a misunderstanding, a lie. Anyone who looks into the demographics of the country knows this. BTL often comments on how they take in refugees that would otherwise be sent back to die, unlike the surrounding Arab countries. And those refugees know that life is better in Israel, not perfect but saner, so they try very hard to get in.
- Aggie
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
July 31, 2009 @ 7:27 am
It’s even more depraved than that, Aggie. Egyptian border patrol guards shoot these refugees in the back (women, kids, whatever) as they try to cross the border into Israel. I seem to recall linking to one report where the refugees were hauled away from the fence into the black Egyptian night by the guards, and all that could be inferred of their treatment was from the inhuman sounds of beating and screaming in the darkness.
Of course, this is Israel’s fault, as you might have guessed. They asked the Egyptians to do their part in patrolling the border between the two nations, and the Egyptians were only too happy to comply.
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
July 31, 2009 @ 7:29 am
Yeah, now that you mention it I do remember. The world is a sad place in many ways.
- Aggie
Joe O'Neill said,
July 31, 2009 @ 9:19 am
Perhaps the Arabs know better than Israel about certain things ?
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
July 31, 2009 @ 11:27 am
NO. It is wrong to murder and wrong to deny people safe haven, to deny them an escape route. They don’t know better. It’s wrong.
- Aggie
Joe O'Neill said,
July 31, 2009 @ 12:20 pm
It’s their country. let them fight for it ! they do not have a god given right to go where they want and expect to be welcomed with open arms: It also not incumbent upon others to give them succour .For those of us who believe in Darwinism,such actions as helping people who are not of your blood is tantamount to stupidity or worse slow suicide.Sound a bit rough ?, go and have a look at downtown any town in the US and see what such a policy has done to the greatest country in the world.I was taught “Charity begins at home”, what this means in practice is that it is stupid in the extreme to give anything to anyone when one of your own family (countrymen) is wanting.Rough? Tough.It is just like that idiot general in charge of the army in Afghanistan is doing when he says that he wants to win hearts and minds, imagine if an idiot like that was in charge on D Day.The objective of any army should be to kill as many of the enemy as possible without getting your side killed.
Joe O'Neill said,
July 31, 2009 @ 12:21 pm
Aggie, to say they don’t know better is patronising in the extreme.
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
July 31, 2009 @ 12:55 pm
I’m willing to patronize anyone who thinks its ok to let innocent people be murdered. It is wrong. It violates my core value system.
- Aggie
Joe O'Neill said,
July 31, 2009 @ 1:10 pm
If one is not willing to fight for something then it is not worth having! that includes your home your wife your family your country.If it not worth having what makes someone think that they can have MY home, wife,family and country.That is my core value.
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
July 31, 2009 @ 2:17 pm
Joe,
There is an enormous difference between fighting terrorists who wish to kill you and taking in people who are basically fleeing from those same terrorists. The little kids shown in the photograph are not trying to kill anyone, but would have been killed if they hadn’t been helped. Wanting to protect one’s one family is also good but the two are not mutually exclusive. From the Talmud: * Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.
- Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 4:8 (37a)
It is the right thing to do.
- Aggie
RB said,
July 31, 2009 @ 5:26 pm
Israel should ship them to Gaza and let the UNRWA take care of them. That is it’s purpose, right?
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
July 31, 2009 @ 5:32 pm
Would you trust the UN to take care of them?
- Aggie
Joe O'Neill said,
July 31, 2009 @ 6:36 pm
The real sick bit is that thousands of Jews are refused Alia because they are not recognised as “Real” Jews because they belong to a reform congregation ,meanwhile animists, heathens and assorted voodo worshippers should be welcomed ? Get Real.
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
July 31, 2009 @ 7:34 pm
No Jew is denied Aliyah and being a Reform Jew is not a denial of entry into Israel or of making aliyah. That simply isn’t true. It is also untrue that Israel has extended citizenship to the various Sudanese refugees. They have given them safety, not citizenship.
- Aggie
Carol said,
July 31, 2009 @ 9:31 pm
Israel is being merciful. It’s not just a good idea; it’s the law - pretty sure the Jews thought of it first. If these people were being given shelter at the expense of the existence of the State of Israel, I would be very unhappy about that, but we have to assume that Israel isn’t going to do something that will wipe itself out.
And let’s not forget that these refugees have no means to defend themselves against the forces who want to kill them. They most assuredly have no arms so they can either escape or be killed. If another country will provide a place for them to escape from yet another miserable bunch of jihadis, then that’s good for all of us. The more people who exist in the world who really, really, really understand what jihad is about, the better for all of us.
Bloodthirsty Liberal said,
August 2, 2009 @ 6:51 am
To Our Readers,
I just removed a comment because I thought it was over the top. We will publish a lot, but if comments go after people for anything other than behavior, if entire groups are bundled together because of real or perceived behavior of a few members, I will remove the post (assuming I see it). We can have a conversation here, but not one that involves scapegoating entire groups (like all Ethiopians or all New Zealanders for example).
- Aggie
Rivkah said,
August 2, 2009 @ 10:51 am
Israeli’s don’t believe in Darwinism, but though we like our State to be Jewish, we believe a lot more in humanitarianism than any of our neighbors - you should have seen how Israeli Arabs went ballastic at the suggestion that some of their strongholds be incorporated into a Palestinian state to compensate for land that would be potentially annexed by Israel in a final settlement. There are 36 prohibitions for suppressing the stranger (compared with 1 prohibition for eating pork), because we’ve been there, and we know what it’s like.
Boy, aren’t those Egyptians a puzzle - they can’t keep Hamas arms-smugglers from crossing the border, but somehow make up with it for their prowess in Sudanese-civillian-refugee shooting.